Margaret talks with author and organizer Shane Burley about fascism: what it is, why it comes up during times of crisis, and what we can do about it. They discuss the ways that we organize as anti-authoritarians to confront the ultimate authoritarianism.

Margaret talks with Liza Kurtz, a phd student in disaster studies, about how class and other antecedent conditions make people vulnerable to disasters. They also talk about elite panic, the idea that the people who are most invested in the system are the ones who panic in times of crisis.

Margaret talks with Kylie about how she designed her backyard aquaponics setup and how she developed a small-scale food forest in the front yard of her house.

Margaret talks with adrienne maree brown about Emergent Strategy.

I talk with Cici and Eepa from the Javelina Network about communicating across the globe using autonomous radio.

I talk with Philip about security culture: the idea of creating a culture of security so that activists and revolutionaries don’t get caught.

I talk with Dibs, a personal trainer, about fitness for the apocalypse or revolution and how fitness works for people with different relationships to their body, such as hormones, disability, etc.

I talk with historian and author Walidah Imarisha about how we use our imaginations to direct our action and about why we need a world without police and prisons.